How I restored my Honda HR214 lawn mower, lots of resources like manuals, parts diagrams, gxv120 rebuild instructions, and much more!
Saturday, June 23, 2012
Honda HR214 Lawn Mower in Famous Music Video!
Some girls at work sent me this video. The music is pop-crap, but if you watch the first 30 seconds you'll catch a honda hr214...classic!
Saturday, June 16, 2012
She Lives!
She lives! After 3 months of tear downs, repairs, lots of parts and poring over the official honda manual, my little Hr214 started up on the second try. Pretty sweet-see the video below:
So whats next?
So whats next?
- The Gxv120 surges when its cold. I'd imagine its a carb issue, but will have to check it out next weekend when I have some time.
- The hr214 transmission should be checked over for fluid level (apparently the seals on each end of the axel can go bad...since I don't see any leaks I would guess that I'm either A-OK, or I'm so out of fluid and its about to fail =P
- Check the valve adjustments-I have more power, at less RPM, than before the tear down, but want to make sure the adjustments are good after a couple of uses
- Repair the handle where it meets the deck; maybe add the commercial handle braces that I've seen in the parts catalogue....
Sunday, June 3, 2012
Coming Back Together!
First off, all credit to my wife for solving the mystery part issue! Turns out the plastic piece is part of the flow of oil from the head back to the crank case...thats what I get for not taking enough pictures while i disassembled it!
So the motor is back together, and even sitting on the deck right now-sweet! Reassembly notes for those that come after me...
Head-I didn't put in new valve guides, but I did get some Valve Paste
in my last parts order from Amazon and did a valve job. According to the internet, the valve seats should be a dull grey, and mine were, so I think I'm OK there. There was a very small amount of back-and-forth detectible in the valve guides when you wiggled the stems, but I'm going to leave it for now. I just can't find any examples of this motor having that sort of issue, and the stems were in spec as well.
Carb-Follow the video on the resources page! These carbs are really, really simple, and it looks like the key is cleanliness. Honestly, I probably didn't even have to take the carb apart, and I probably wouldn't again unless I suspected there was some kind of issue. I discovered the miracle of carb cleaner for the first time...and quickly discovered that I should be wearing rubber gloves when I use this stuff.
BBC- You're going to have to use the Strap Wrench
again to hold the flywheel still while getting the Blade Brake Clutch back together. After the engine is on the deck and torqued down, sit the mower on its side on a pair of saw horse to make things easier.
Misc- Pay attention to the routing of the wires, they should be kept away from the cylinder head and exhaust. Take time to re-grease the drive shaft, and line the hole up as described in the manual.
So will she start? Tune in next week...
Tools used to re-assemble so far:
Strap Wrench
Valve Paste
Carb Cleaner
Rubber Gloves
(Seriously guys, use gloves when you're using that carb cleaner stuff...)
So the motor is back together, and even sitting on the deck right now-sweet! Reassembly notes for those that come after me...
Head-I didn't put in new valve guides, but I did get some Valve Paste
Carb-Follow the video on the resources page! These carbs are really, really simple, and it looks like the key is cleanliness. Honestly, I probably didn't even have to take the carb apart, and I probably wouldn't again unless I suspected there was some kind of issue. I discovered the miracle of carb cleaner for the first time...and quickly discovered that I should be wearing rubber gloves when I use this stuff.
BBC- You're going to have to use the Strap Wrench
Misc- Pay attention to the routing of the wires, they should be kept away from the cylinder head and exhaust. Take time to re-grease the drive shaft, and line the hole up as described in the manual.
So will she start? Tune in next week...
Strap Wrench
Valve Paste
Carb Cleaner
Rubber Gloves
Sunday, May 6, 2012
Honda Gxv120 Rebuild-mystery part?
Boats.net came through on my Honda parts a little more than a week after ordering them. Not bad, and they really did seem to have the lowest prices. So today I picked up some assembly lube, a piston ring compressor, a 3/8ths torque wrench and went to work. First came putting the piston back into the cylinder-not too bad a job, just be VERY careful to align the rings with the mark facing "up." My mark was a "N" instead of a "T" but I think I got it right.
Next was the crankshaft (lube it up, drop it in the bearing) and the the connecting rod cap. When you tighten the connecting rod bolts, make sure you are using a torque wrench! The space you have to work in is really tight so I actually went and picked up a new one for the occasion. The sears store only had a 3/8ths drive, but a 1/4" probably would have worked even better if I had thought ahead and ordered it online.
After the crankshaft and piston are back together, move on to the camshaft. Make sure the dots line up, the lifters are back in their slots, and drop it in. I didn't mark the lifters as I took them out...but they appear to have no wear and be identical.
So far so good...until I found a mystery part! Shit, I hate it when that happens! Here is a picture of the little sucker:
This little guy shows up in the parts sheet on boats.net as a "pipe, oil defense" in the cylinder head parts diagram. Unfortunately, it shows up nowhere in the manual, and in the parts diagram it is off in the corner by itself...no clue to where in the cylinder head it lives. Hmmm...so dear readers, anybody know where things thing goes?
Tools used to reassemble the gxv120 piston, crank and camshaft:
1/4-Inch Torque Wrench
Piston Ring Compressor
Engine Assembly Lube
Next was the crankshaft (lube it up, drop it in the bearing) and the the connecting rod cap. When you tighten the connecting rod bolts, make sure you are using a torque wrench! The space you have to work in is really tight so I actually went and picked up a new one for the occasion. The sears store only had a 3/8ths drive, but a 1/4" probably would have worked even better if I had thought ahead and ordered it online.
After the crankshaft and piston are back together, move on to the camshaft. Make sure the dots line up, the lifters are back in their slots, and drop it in. I didn't mark the lifters as I took them out...but they appear to have no wear and be identical.
So far so good...until I found a mystery part! Shit, I hate it when that happens! Here is a picture of the little sucker:
This little guy shows up in the parts sheet on boats.net as a "pipe, oil defense" in the cylinder head parts diagram. Unfortunately, it shows up nowhere in the manual, and in the parts diagram it is off in the corner by itself...no clue to where in the cylinder head it lives. Hmmm...so dear readers, anybody know where things thing goes?
Tools used to reassemble the gxv120 piston, crank and camshaft:
1/4-Inch Torque Wrench
Piston Ring Compressor
Engine Assembly Lube
Sunday, April 29, 2012
Measuring the gxv120 Cylinder Bore
After I got the gxv120 cylinder honed I began to have doubts that the cylinder was still within spec. After all, this engine is pushing 30 years old (!), and was running super high revolutions when the tear-down began. So I decided to do some rough measurements with a telescopic bore gauge and calipers that I borrowed from a friend. Luckily the hr214 shop manual had the specs for the bore, and after taking some measurements it looks like my bore has about .05mm of wear, but is still well within spec. If anybody wants to do a tear down on one of these hondas and take the measurements, you need to take your time and do multiple measurements. I followed the directions from the video below:
Tools used in video:
Dial Bore Gauge
Like Jaf says in the video, the dial bore gauge is the best solution if you're building a serious engine, but for a lawnmower engine that is measuring so far below tolerance with the telescoping bore gauge set, I think I'm fine. I ordered some parts from boats.net too...hopefully next week the rebuild will start.
Like Jaf says in the video, the dial bore gauge is the best solution if you're building a serious engine, but for a lawnmower engine that is measuring so far below tolerance with the telescoping bore gauge set, I think I'm fine. I ordered some parts from boats.net too...hopefully next week the rebuild will start.
Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Honda HR214 Manuals, HR194 Manuals, GXV-120 Manuals
So while the machine shop is doing unspeakable things to the honda gxv120, I'm getting my stuff in order so I can start putting the pieces back together when I get the block back.
Honda GXV120 Service manual-This is the service manual for the hr214's engine-in three languages no less!
Honda HR194/HR214 Service Manual Online- CB left us this link in the comments, its the service manual online, for FREE! SWEET!
Honda HR214 Parts diagrams-Actually a link to Planopower, they appear to have a pretty complete list for the hr214
Honda GX Carb cleaning video-How cool is this? Bwdbrn1 posted this on the "my tractor forum"; its a 8 minute video showing how to take apart and clean a honda gxv120 carb!
Honda HR214 Manual-Just a link to e-bay for now; I haven't been able to find the pdfs of the hr214 online yet, but I'll keep looking.
Honda HR214 Owner's Manual-Probably not gonna use this one for a while, least not till this beast is back together!
Honda gxv120 and gxv160 Carb Services checklist-Really nice diagram of what to check for when something is amiss with the Keihin B0E3A carb
Honda GXV120 Service manual-This is the service manual for the hr214's engine-in three languages no less!
Honda HR194/HR214 Service Manual Online- CB left us this link in the comments, its the service manual online, for FREE! SWEET!
Honda HR214 Parts diagrams-Actually a link to Planopower, they appear to have a pretty complete list for the hr214
Honda GX Carb cleaning video-How cool is this? Bwdbrn1 posted this on the "my tractor forum"; its a 8 minute video showing how to take apart and clean a honda gxv120 carb!
Honda HR214 Manual-Just a link to e-bay for now; I haven't been able to find the pdfs of the hr214 online yet, but I'll keep looking.
Honda HR214 Owner's Manual-Probably not gonna use this one for a while, least not till this beast is back together!
Honda gxv120 and gxv160 Carb Services checklist-Really nice diagram of what to check for when something is amiss with the Keihin B0E3A carb
Monday, April 9, 2012
Honda hr214 lawn mower engine tear-down
And so it begins! I spent the majority of sunday tearing the gxv120 down. I used the official honda manual for the disassembly, but didn't necessarily go in the order prescribed.
Tools: No special tools required, just a wheel puller and a strap wrench to remove the flywheel. Beyond that, I have a motley assortment of metric wrenches and sockets. I would need some special measuring tools if i was going to check out engine internals myself, but for now we're OK since I'll be sending the block out for honing before I drop the new rings in. Oh, and a digital camera to take pictures as you go, and some baggies to store the parts.
Manuals: Just some youtube videos and the official honda hr214 manual. I'll use the parts manual from planopower.net or boats.net to order the stuff, but it wasn't necessary for the take apart.
Steps: I should have removed roto-stop assembly from the bottom of the mower, then taken the engine off the deck. Instead I left the mower on the deck, too it apart until I was down to the block, and then removed the roto-stop assembly. My back is killing me from all the bending over, even though the mower was on saw-horses.
So what does the inside of this small engine look like? Really, not fantastic. No metal shavings, but the bore is as smooth as glass, no cross-hatching in site. Ergo, definitely a hone job before it gets put back together. I'll also have the machine shop check the bore to make sure I don't need an over-size on the piston/ring set, but I would guess I'm ok there.
Tools: No special tools required, just a wheel puller and a strap wrench to remove the flywheel. Beyond that, I have a motley assortment of metric wrenches and sockets. I would need some special measuring tools if i was going to check out engine internals myself, but for now we're OK since I'll be sending the block out for honing before I drop the new rings in. Oh, and a digital camera to take pictures as you go, and some baggies to store the parts.
Manuals: Just some youtube videos and the official honda hr214 manual. I'll use the parts manual from planopower.net or boats.net to order the stuff, but it wasn't necessary for the take apart.
Steps: I should have removed roto-stop assembly from the bottom of the mower, then taken the engine off the deck. Instead I left the mower on the deck, too it apart until I was down to the block, and then removed the roto-stop assembly. My back is killing me from all the bending over, even though the mower was on saw-horses.
So what does the inside of this small engine look like? Really, not fantastic. No metal shavings, but the bore is as smooth as glass, no cross-hatching in site. Ergo, definitely a hone job before it gets put back together. I'll also have the machine shop check the bore to make sure I don't need an over-size on the piston/ring set, but I would guess I'm ok there.
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